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  • He Had A "BUG"

    It didn't help, he got shot


    As we have talked, "timing and distance" win fights

    Deception by feigning compliance

    Deception and/or distraction are important skills

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7HBWaquS3A
    "I suppose it's tempting, if the only tool you have is a hammer, to treat everything as if it were a nail...." ~Abraham Maslow~

    "Skill makes you harder to kill" ~ Unknown

  • #2
    Interesting. Deception can be useful, I think I brought this up a while back.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by gerhard1 View Post
      Interesting. Deception can be useful, I think I brought this up a while back.
      We both have, but it get's passed over with little notice
      "I suppose it's tempting, if the only tool you have is a hammer, to treat everything as if it were a nail...." ~Abraham Maslow~

      "Skill makes you harder to kill" ~ Unknown

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      • #4
        I saw an old WANTED DEAD or ALIVE this week. A kid was playing 3 card Monty and had a dog that woukd bark and jump around if a tune was whistled. A distraction. Let the kid palm the winning card and place another card.

        Throw your keys, carry a dummy wallet to throw down, even getting behind cover can be a distraction.
        Last edited by Jim Macklin; 07-10-2019, 02:58.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Jim Macklin View Post
          I saw an old WANTED DEAD or ALIVE this week. A kid was playing 3 card Monty and had a dog that woukd bark and jump around if a tune was whistled. A distraction. Let the kid palm the winning card and place another card.

          Throw your keys, carry a dummy wallet to throw down, even getting behind cover can be a distraction.
          Throwing is a little to overt and might get an unwanted reaction, subtle distractions work better
          "I suppose it's tempting, if the only tool you have is a hammer, to treat everything as if it were a nail...." ~Abraham Maslow~

          "Skill makes you harder to kill" ~ Unknown

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          • #6
            Is movement not a distraction plus some?
            Failure is an opportunity to learn.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ricco View Post

              Throwing is a little to overt and might get an unwanted reaction, subtle distractions work better
              True, it depends on whether there is a robbery or a kidnapping-killing planned. What you do depends.

              Movement if they are not watching you closely might trigger a stabbing-shooting. If they look away, at another victim or at a ringing phone they may be distracted.

              Every robber/killer is different so what distracts them will be different.

              That's why cops work in teams when they can.

              The people think the Constitution protects their rights; But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
              If your religion says suicide and murder are wrong; Aren't you doing both if you are not prepared to defend your life and the lives of others?
              I am not a lawyer, but I have personal opinions.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by mjkeat View Post
                Is movement not a distraction plus some?
                Moving your body, yes

                Making your opponent look one direction while you move the other direction is better still



                "I suppose it's tempting, if the only tool you have is a hammer, to treat everything as if it were a nail...." ~Abraham Maslow~

                "Skill makes you harder to kill" ~ Unknown

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ricco View Post

                  Moving your body, yes

                  Making your opponent look one direction while you move the other direction is better still


                  Remember when you were in school and your buddies attempted to trick you? Made you look, then they'd laugh. How often were they successful? In my personal, not very often. I wonder how what percentage of the world's population has never played such a game. Absolutely it can work, not arguing that.

                  I wonder how effective movement is when it's unexpected and the BG thinks I'm going to just stand there and comply as compare to movement after the BG realizes I'm not going g to just stand there and not act in my defense.

                  I should add that I'm just spitballing here for the sake of conversation and thoroughness.

                  In bass fishing if the bass won't eat you have to make them. How do you do that? You exploit their natural instincts. Bass are instinctual feeders. If you present a crankbait with rattles in a manner in which they can see or feel (lateral line) it coming they may have time to think about it first. If you burn a silent crankbait in a manner in which they don't see it coming, perhaps throw it behind them then retrieve it at a fairly brisk rate, when it passes in front of them they just react. Since they don't have hands they end up with a mouth full of treble hooks.
                  Last edited by mjkeat; 07-10-2019, 14:14.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by mjkeat View Post

                    Remember when you were in school and your buddies attempted to trick you? Made you look, then they'd laugh. How often were they successful? In my personal, not very often. I wonder how what percentage of the world's population has never played such a game. Absolutely it can work, not arguing

                    Yeah, it worked, usually a type A, a student athlete, dumbass held back and 18 months older than the rest of the class, or a budding sociopath product of divorce. They pick on humble kids that follow rules.

                    Wanna fool them, pull a gun and shoot the **** out of them.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by mjkeat View Post
                      I wonder how effective movement is when it's unexpected and the BG thinks I'm going to just stand there and comply as compare to movement after the BG realizes I'm not going g to just stand there and not act in my defense.
                      Lot's can be done with facial expression and eye movement

                      Dr Jordan Peterson was talking about how we read people's eye's intuitively, so if it's available to us why not use it

                      It's not that difficult to make people believe there someone or something behind them

                      It's all about buying just a little bit of time

                      A quarter head turn get's us a .25 -.50 of second, if we have practiced loading the legs for movement we can move as much as two steps or 5 feet off the BG's muzzle in that half second



                      "I suppose it's tempting, if the only tool you have is a hammer, to treat everything as if it were a nail...." ~Abraham Maslow~

                      "Skill makes you harder to kill" ~ Unknown

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