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  • ricco
    started a topic Tactical 88

    Tactical 88

    Just found out about this

    Shooting range, fitness center, restaurant

    If they put in a stripper pole and a cigar bar I might not ever leave

    Take a look around the website, it's an impressive place

    https://88tactical.com/

  • mjkeat
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    Originally posted by Not so big Tom View Post
    No one wants to pay you to teach, and perhaps next to no one wants it here for free. You should find a platform that appreciates you.
    If true, which I have serious doubt once folks get over the initial emotional reaction of hearing their choices don't stack up, isn't it sad that people get upset over being offered some of the best info available on the subject for free.

    As I've said before, if you disagree with any of the info provided debate it. Any tardo can *****, moan and call names. If youre claiming its bad info it must mean you possess knowledge of better info so get to sharing. We're all ears.

    Once beyond the butthurt crybaby stuff this little site is a jewel packed with information geared to create a practical fighting mindset along with recommendations on the mental/physical tools to develope the skills to back it up should one be forced into such a scenario.

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  • ricco
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    You have so much anger

    It saddens me

    I feel bad for you

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  • Not so big Tom
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    I would miss you about as much as my hemorrhoids, disappear a month so we can be sure.

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  • ricco
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    You would miss me if I left

    You know you would

    Honest as much as you talk to me to all the time i'm thinking you want to best friends

    Is that what you want, to be best friends, I think it is, c'mon admit it

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  • Not so big Tom
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    No one wants to pay you to teach, and perhaps next to no one wants it here for free. You should find a platform that appreciates you.

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  • ricco
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    Originally posted by Not so big Tom View Post

    Perhaps the same applies here?
    Huh??

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  • Not so big Tom
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    I donít care to embarrass him further, but he is a know it all that likes to correct people with BTDT from his kitchen table.

    Im glad you posted, I respect you had some BTDT in Ganderís demise and shared.



    Originally posted by mjkeat View Post

    I'm glad you brought those places up. Out of any place in the entire state those 2 places had the best curriculum, hands down, Gander being on top due to it's focus on intuitive shooting/counter ambush. I knew people at TB, they struggled to get people in legit defensive handgun classes. The same goes for Gander after the first couple years except for a span of a year roughly 2 years before the retail store filed and then sold. We were having to add 2 or 3 of each class each month, especially the 4hr. IDDH class. Unfortunately people who didn't have a clue about personal defense beyond #pewpew got involved and good instructors literally walked out.

    Why is it that a place like 54, bullseye, etc. are still offering classes? Simply reading their class descriptions is enough to understand there's a lack of knowledge when it comes to practical self defense.

    Simple. People don't know what they don't know and want what they want rather than what they need. Some don't have the luxury of saying I'm going to offer what you need, take it or leave it so they swallow their integrity and hype/push the trash the unknowing think they want.

    Which member didn't take you up on your offer to fund them?

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  • Not so big Tom
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    Originally posted by ricco View Post

    I already told you that what I would teach would cause a business to fail miserably, so we are in agreement

    You keep wanting me to teach and that's fine except that there aren't enough people that are interested in what I would teach to make a business work

    That was the whole point of my post

    People aren't interested in training they are interested having a good time


    My opinion

    If you finish a class feeling good about yourself you wasted your time and money


    Hope this clears things up
    Perhaps the same applies here?

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  • mjkeat
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    Originally posted by Not so big Tom View Post

    Gander and Thunderbird both failed, and had far better business plans, no thanks.



    I'm glad you brought those places up. Out of any place in the entire state those 2 places had the best curriculum, hands down, Gander being on top due to it's focus on intuitive shooting/counter ambush. I knew people at TB, they struggled to get people in legit defensive handgun classes. The same goes for Gander after the first couple years except for a span of a year roughly 2 years before the retail store filed and then sold. We were having to add 2 or 3 of each class each month, especially the 4hr. IDDH class. Unfortunately people who didn't have a clue about personal defense beyond #pewpew got involved and good instructors literally walked out.

    Why is it that a place like 54, bullseye, etc. are still offering classes? Simply reading their class descriptions is enough to understand there's a lack of knowledge when it comes to practical self defense.

    Simple. People don't know what they don't know and want what they want rather than what they need. Some don't have the luxury of saying I'm going to offer what you need, take it or leave it so they swallow their integrity and hype/push the trash the unknowing think they want.

    Which member didn't take you up on your offer to fund them?

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  • ricco
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    Originally posted by Not so big Tom View Post

    Gander and Thunderbird both failed, and had far better business plans, no thanks.



    I already told you that what I would teach would cause a business to fail miserably, so we are in agreement

    You keep wanting me to teach and that's fine except that there aren't enough people that are interested in what I would teach to make a business work

    That was the whole point of my post

    People aren't interested in training they are interested having a good time


    My opinion

    If you finish a class feeling good about yourself you wasted your time and money


    Hope this clears things up

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  • Not so big Tom
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    Originally posted by ricco View Post

    Tell ya what, I'll open a school and teach what I want to teach and YOU fund it

    ...we both know I will be teaching to an empty room

    So how about it
    Gander and Thunderbird both failed, and had far better business plans, no thanks.




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  • ricco
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    Originally posted by Not so big Tom View Post

    I actually offered to fund a forum member to start a class, but he backed down. Most of my money is tied up in profit centers, the rest is cash reserve. Unless I gross 15%, and keep equity I have no interest. You are a losing deal in more ways than one.
    Start a class, no

    I'm talking about indoor and outdoor ranges

    A fully equipped gym

    Classrooms

    And it has to be in a freestanding building

    If we're gonna do this we have to do it right

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  • Not so big Tom
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    Originally posted by ricco View Post

    Tell ya what, I'll open a school and teach what I want to teach and YOU fund it

    Just be aware though that when I put in the Course Description that the first 2 hours of instruction will be working on the "Drop Step", something that might actually save a life, we both know I will be teaching to an empty room

    So how about it
    I actually offered to fund a forum member to start a class, but he backed down. Most of my money is tied up in profit centers, the rest is cash reserve. Unless I gross 15%, and keep equity I have no interest. You are a losing deal in more ways than one.

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  • mjkeat
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    Originally posted by Not so big Tom View Post
    There you go, you got to mock someone who does rather than someone who types
    I did both on varying levels and capacities and what he says is 100% accurate, military and civilian, it's undeniable fact. Sharing truths is not mocking. Get out there and see for yourself. Do you have a different experience you'd like to share?

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